Discussion:
docs & question...
Mahmoud Hanafi
2008-02-27 02:18:59 UTC
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Is there a document that description the overall architecture of kusu.

Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?


Mahmoud Hanafi
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Mike Mazur
2008-02-27 02:34:25 UTC
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Hi Mahmoud,

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:18:59 -0500
Post by Mahmoud Hanafi
Is there a document that description the overall architecture of kusu.
Our documentation[1] is currently a work in progress and can be found at
our website[2].
Post by Mahmoud Hanafi
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the mac
address already)
You can use the -f flag to the addhost program. addhost is responsible
for adding/removing nodes to your cluster. The -f command line options
accepts a text file containing the mac addresses as an argument. You
also need to specify the nodegroup to add the nodes to, the network
interface to use and the rack (if necessary) all on the command line.
For example:

# cat macs
0a:1b:3c:5d:6d:4b
0a:1b:3c:5d:6d:4c
# addhost -f macs -n compute-rhel-5-x86_64 -j eth0 -r 0
Adding Node: compute-00-01, 0a:1b:3c:5d:6d:4b
Adding Node: compute-00-02, 0a:1b:3c:5d:6d:4c
Shutting down dhcpd: [ OK ]
Starting dhcpd: [ OK ]
Setting up automount maps for cfm: [ OK ]
Post by Mahmoud Hanafi
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
You can customize the base install of all nodes in a nodegroup using
the ngedit tool. Some of the screens allow you to add packages to
install on each of the nodes, add components provided by kits, etc. For
more information on kits, see our kits documentation[3][4].
Post by Mahmoud Hanafi
3. How do I add additional node types?
The ngedit tool allows you to make copies of existing nodegroups (which
describe a node type) and then customize it to your needs.

Hope that helps!
Mike

[1] http://www.osgdc.org/confluence/display/KUSU/Documentation
[2] http://www.osgdc.org/confluence/display/KUSU
[3] http://www.osgdc.org/confluence/display/KUSU/Kusu+Kits
[4] http://www.osgdc.org/confluence/display/KUSU/Building+Kusu+Kits
Shawn Starr
2008-02-27 15:34:55 UTC
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Hi Mahmoud,


1) Add host allows you to add multiple nodes (pre-populate). To do this use:


addhost -f [filename of mac addresses] -j [interface the compute nodes use to provision from] -n [nodegroup name]


The mac address file format is the following:

aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:aa
...

2) When you mean extend what specifically, packages or scripts? If you have 3rd party packages drop them in /depot/contrib/[distribution]/[version]/x86_64 then run the ngedit command to select the custom package(s) you want to install.

3) Using the ngedit command you copy a node group and modify the node group to your liking.

Thanks,
Shawn.
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Subject: [Kusu-users] docs & question...
Is there a document that description the overall architecture
of kusu.
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the
mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?
Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536
Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo
California 90245,
USA
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Mahmoud Hanafi
2008-02-27 15:50:02 UTC
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I would like to be able to extend a compute by adding scripts and
packages(with-out using a UI). Is there a similar approach as in OCS4.x
(extend-compute.xml)


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
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Hi Mahmoud,


1) Add host allows you to add multiple nodes (pre-populate). To do this
use:


addhost -f [filename of mac addresses] -j [interface the compute nodes use
to provision from] -n [nodegroup name]


The mac address file format is the following:

aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:aa
...

2) When you mean extend what specifically, packages or scripts? If you
have 3rd party packages drop them in
/depot/contrib/[distribution]/[version]/x86_64 then run the ngedit command
to select the custom package(s) you want to install.

3) Using the ngedit command you copy a node group and modify the node
group to your liking.

Thanks,
Shawn.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: [Kusu-users] docs & question...
Is there a document that description the overall architecture
of kusu.
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the
mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?
Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536
Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo
California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59
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Mark Black
2008-02-27 17:36:57 UTC
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Hi Mahmoud

Unfortunately not all OCS users are as advanced as you are. The packages and custom scripts are typically added by ngedit, but adding them is basically just adding a database entry.

Adding a custom script could be done by:
1. Copy the script you want to run to /depot/repos/custom_scripts
2. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
3. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into scripts set ngid={Your ngid}, script="{Your script name}"'

Adding packages is a similiar process:
1. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
2. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into packages set ngid={Your ngid}, packagename="{Name of the package}"'

This bypasses the checking the ngedit tool does, so it allows you to make mistakes.


Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM
To: Shawn Starr
Cc: Users of Kusu
Subject: RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...


I would like to be able to extend a compute by adding scripts and
packages(with-out using a UI). Is there a similar approach as in OCS4.x
(extend-compute.xml)


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59

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Hi Mahmoud,


1) Add host allows you to add multiple nodes (pre-populate). To do this
use:


addhost -f [filename of mac addresses] -j [interface the compute nodes use
to provision from] -n [nodegroup name]


The mac address file format is the following:

aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:aa
...

2) When you mean extend what specifically, packages or scripts? If you
have 3rd party packages drop them in
/depot/contrib/[distribution]/[version]/x86_64 then run the ngedit command
to select the custom package(s) you want to install.

3) Using the ngedit command you copy a node group and modify the node
group to your liking.

Thanks,
Shawn.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: [Kusu-users] docs & question...
Is there a document that description the overall architecture
of kusu.
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the
mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?
Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536
Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo
California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59
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Mahmoud Hanafi
2008-02-27 17:56:32 UTC
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Thanks for the info. I haven't tried the diskless build yet. Does it use
nfsroot or only ramdisk? If it uses nfsroot, can you have multiple nfs
server servicing different groups of nodes? Or can you build the root fs
on a NAS (like a netapp) ?


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59

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Hi Mahmoud

Unfortunately not all OCS users are as advanced as you are. The packages
and custom scripts are typically added by ngedit, but adding them is
basically just adding a database entry.

Adding a custom script could be done by:
1. Copy the script you want to run to
/depot/repos/custom_scripts
2. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run
this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
3. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into scripts set ngid={Your
ngid}, script="{Your script name}"'

Adding packages is a similiar process:
1. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run
this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
2. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into packages set ngid={Your
ngid}, packagename="{Name of the package}"'

This bypasses the checking the ngedit tool does, so it allows you to make
mistakes.


Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM
To: Shawn Starr
Cc: Users of Kusu
Subject: RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...


I would like to be able to extend a compute by adding scripts and
packages(with-out using a UI). Is there a similar approach as in OCS4.x
(extend-compute.xml)


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59

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Subject
RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...






Hi Mahmoud,


1) Add host allows you to add multiple nodes (pre-populate). To do this
use:


addhost -f [filename of mac addresses] -j [interface the compute nodes use

to provision from] -n [nodegroup name]


The mac address file format is the following:

aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:aa
...

2) When you mean extend what specifically, packages or scripts? If you
have 3rd party packages drop them in
/depot/contrib/[distribution]/[version]/x86_64 then run the ngedit command

to select the custom package(s) you want to install.

3) Using the ngedit command you copy a node group and modify the node
group to your liking.

Thanks,
Shawn.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: [Kusu-users] docs & question...
Is there a document that description the overall architecture
of kusu.
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the
mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?
Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536
Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo
California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59
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Mark Black
2008-02-27 18:48:06 UTC
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Hi Mahmoud

It uses ramdisk only.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:57 PM
To: Users of Kusu
Cc: kusu-users-***@osgdc.org; Users of Kusu
Subject: RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...


Thanks for the info. I haven't tried the diskless build yet. Does it use
nfsroot or only ramdisk? If it uses nfsroot, can you have multiple nfs
server servicing different groups of nodes? Or can you build the root fs
on a NAS (like a netapp) ?


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59

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Hi Mahmoud

Unfortunately not all OCS users are as advanced as you are. The packages
and custom scripts are typically added by ngedit, but adding them is
basically just adding a database entry.

Adding a custom script could be done by:
1. Copy the script you want to run to
/depot/repos/custom_scripts
2. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run
this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
3. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into scripts set ngid={Your
ngid}, script="{Your script name}"'

Adding packages is a similiar process:
1. Get the nodegroup ID of the node group that should run
this script
# sqlrunner -q 'select ngid,ngname from nodegroups'
The first column is the nodegroup ID
2. Add the script into the scripts table i.e.
# sqlrunner -q 'insert into packages set ngid={Your
ngid}, packagename="{Name of the package}"'

This bypasses the checking the ngedit tool does, so it allows you to make
mistakes.


Mark

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:kusu-users-***@osgdc.org]On Behalf Of Mahmoud Hanafi
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM
To: Shawn Starr
Cc: Users of Kusu
Subject: RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...


I would like to be able to extend a compute by adding scripts and
packages(with-out using a UI). Is there a similar approach as in OCS4.x
(extend-compute.xml)


Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536


Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59

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RE: [Kusu-users] docs & question...






Hi Mahmoud,


1) Add host allows you to add multiple nodes (pre-populate). To do this
use:


addhost -f [filename of mac addresses] -j [interface the compute nodes use

to provision from] -n [nodegroup name]


The mac address file format is the following:

aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:aa
...

2) When you mean extend what specifically, packages or scripts? If you
have 3rd party packages drop them in
/depot/contrib/[distribution]/[version]/x86_64 then run the ngedit command

to select the custom package(s) you want to install.

3) Using the ngedit command you copy a node group and modify the node
group to your liking.

Thanks,
Shawn.
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Kusu-users] docs & question...
Is there a document that description the overall architecture
of kusu.
Some basic question....
1. how do I add a bulk of nodes at the same time? (i have the
mac address
already)
2. How do I extend the base install of a compute node.
3. How do I add additional node types?
Mahmoud Hanafi
Sr. System Administrator
CSC HPC COE
Bld. 676
2435 Fifth Street
WPAFB, Ohio 45433
(937) 255-1536
Computer Sciences Corporation
Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo
California 90245,
USA
Registered in USA No: C-489-59
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